Open Thread

Delaware Right  Feel free to discuss the RNC or anything on your minds.

31 Comments on "Open Thread"

  1. fightingbluehen says:

    I’m thinking that this Melania Trump plagiarizing some phrasing from a speech by Michelle Obama, will turn out positive for the Trump candidacy in the end. This seems intentional to me. I think the press are taking the bait.

    In the end Melania will have sympathy. She will be the victim ,and the Hillary camp does not want to appear to go after a seemingly vulnerable woman.

    As she cries, Melania will claim that she personally used those words because of the respect she has for Michelle Obama.

    Then again it really could be a complete screw up by some speech writer who is about to get fired., but it seems far fetched that a trained speech writer would do this without it being on purpose.

  2. Honi Soit says:

    Voter registration totals statewide is my topic, being made curious by Don Ayotte’s claim that IPod is the fastest growing party. So I checked year-to-date figures and found that he is right when looking at growth in terms of percentages:

    IPod: +8.4% (from 3,980 to 4,346 = +366)
    Republican: +2.7% (182,359 to 187,479 = +5,120)
    Democrat: +2.7 (308,416 to 316,888 = +8,472)

    Not withstanding Ayotte’s claim about growth, IPod is hardly a force to be reckoned with in terms of raw numbers. Providing a platform for media attention might be another matter.

  3. Pat Fish says:

    I listened to Melania’s alleged plagiarism and got to admit, there certainly was a resemblance.

    But really, does anyone think that the Trump people scrounged around for Michelle’s 2008 speech so they could lift the words?

    Words are cheap; they could have asked me for God’s sake. I’m thinking the words about working hard to achieve your dream, that sort of thing, are universal.

    But to copy a speech by Michelle Obama for Melania Trump? I just don’t buy it.

  4. Rick says:

    Both M. Obama’s and M. Trump’s speeches were typical beauty pageant “I love everybody, we can change the world together” gibberish. I notice that the Socialist-Democrat media apparatus, particularly PMSNBC, is pushing this story hard. But in reality, who cares?

    On Real Clear Politics they have the data from a polling site that tracks numbers in several counties in the battleground states that have voted for the eventual winner in the past four presidential elections. Trump leads in all, some by double-digit margins, except Loudoun County Virginia, where he trails by 2. Somewhat surprisingly, he’s up big in NC and comfortably in PA and FL.

    Hillary will do fine in Philadelphia (although not with BO’s numbers), but I think Scranton/Wilkes-Barre will be a wash and Trump will carry Pittsburgh, Erie and the heartland. If he wins PA, he’s likely to be the next president.

    Hillary made a crucial error in aligning with the Black Klan (Black Lives Matter). They garner little sympathy in mainstream America. It’s not dissimilar to McGovern being saddled with the Yippies.

  5. Rick says:

    For your convenience, the link to the battleground county polling:

    click here

  6. mouse says:

    I didn’t realize how many old white men must live in these counties

  7. mouse says:

    If Michelle Obama has plagiarized in the same way, you people would be spinning your heards and spewing bile like rapid dogs. Talk radio would be screaming. Do you people ever self reflect in a way that looks at intellectual embarassmenrt?

  8. Honi Soit says:

    Oh Rick: Your link takes us to Strategic Vision Inc. Nate Silver gives this outfit an “F” rating and won’t use their polls in his campaign predictions because they are so unreliable and so biased. Polling is only one part of what they do. They are retained by Republicans as lobbyists and campaign strategists. Their founder headed up the Cruz campaign.

    Garbage in; garbage out.

  9. Rick says:

    Who needs Obama when we have the nation’s plagiarism champ right here in Delaware?

    He also finished at the top of his law school class (if you hold the list upside-down).

  10. mouse trap says:

    If Michelle Obama has plagiarized in the same way, you people would be spinning your heards and spewing bile like rapid dogs. Talk radio would be screaming. Do you people ever self reflect in a way that looks at intellectual embarassmenrt?

    Do you ever feel intellectually embarrassed, mouse? Because you should in about a minute.

    Michelle Obama was accused of plagiarism in 2008, and bloggers nailed her, not Republicans:

    http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=29090

    Barack Obama was accused by Hillary Clinton in 2008 of plagiarism with not a peep out of the Republicans:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/us/politics/19campaign.html

    and Bernie Saunders accused Hillary Clinton of plagiarism just this past February, there was even a hashtag #STEALthebern:

    http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-clintons-blatant-plagarism/

    and again, no head spinning or bile spewing from the right, they were silent.

    Seems like other than Joe Biden in 1988, all of the plagiarism head spinning and bile spewing is coming from Democrats, right up to and including today.

    Run off an self reflect, mouse, you liberals need it more than any Republican who ever lived.

  11. fightingbluehen says:

    Most people in positions such as Michelle Obama, and Presidents and other politicians for that matter, have speech writers who craft their words for them.
    It’s probably a speech writer who Melania Trump has borrowed words from, and she herself is probably reading something written by someone else. It’s sort of ridiculous.

  12. mouse says:

    I was referring to your support for a trash talking bellicose reality show with no ability to govern. They will be making jokes about this for years after you people lose in the biggest loss in history. All you people seem to want is some nasty mouth piece who belches out all your pent up bile, racism, fear and hatered

  13. Rick says:

    I was referring to your support for a trash talking bellicose reality show with no ability to govern.

    Yeah. Hillary knows “how to govern.” Get the three a.m. phone call and hang up, as a US Ambassador and CIA operatives die.

    Trump builds what people want, at great expense. Even New York “liberals” rent his properties and play golf at his country clubs. He provides a service.

    How did Hillary make her millions? What service did she provide?

    Influence.

    She is a liar and a thief. And luckily, the people can see it.

  14. mouse trap says:

    In true form, the liberal changes the playing field once they are proved wrong. mouse said this:

    If Michelle Obama has plagiarized in the same way, you people would be spinning your heards and spewing bile like rapid dogs. Talk radio would be screaming. Do you people ever self reflect in a way that looks at intellectual embarassmenrt?

    Then, when mouse learned that Michelle, Barack and Hillary all plagiarized with virtually no hysteria from the right, the playing field changes to this:

    I was referring to your support for a trash talking bellicose reality show with no ability to govern. They will be making jokes about this for years after you people lose in the biggest loss in history. All you people seem to want is some nasty mouth piece who belches out all your pent up bile, racism, fear and hatered

    Notice the lack of “embarrassment” on mouse’s part, and the lack of “self reflection” on mouse’s part, instead of saying, “I was wrong,” he changes the field. Intellectually embarrassing to say the least.

  15. fightingbluehen says:

    I guess we can rule out a supreme court nomination for Ted Cruz…,or can we?…He did say build the wall.

  16. fightingbluehen says:

    I think I heard Trump’s kid say something to the effect, that Trump hasn’t ever taken a government check…..More speech writer apologies to come?

  17. Rick says:

    Yes, let’s parse every word of meaningless speeches.

    Meanwhile, our former Secretary of State orchestrated policies resulting in utter chaos in the Middle East and allowed access to state secrets (including jeopardizing US operatives abroad). No problem there.

    Oh, she got rich, too? How? What did she build? What service did she provide?

    Access. Influence. Pay to play.

    Are Socialist-Democrats just plain stupid, or do they just hate America?

  18. Honi Soit says:

    Rick, there is the small matter of our invasion of Iraq in 2003, which is curiously absent from your assignment of blame for the “utter chaos in the Middle East.”

  19. fightingbluehen says:

    Obviously Bush planted the seeds that lead to to the destabilization of Iraq, but he didn’t create the vacuum of power that allowed radical Islam to take over that region.

    When Bush left office Iraq was stabilized. Obama sealed Iraq’s fate all on his own when he pulled all the troops out. Biden even called Iraq “one of the greatest achievements of this administration”.

    And what about Syria, Egypt, Afghanistan, and Libya, etc. Remember when Hillary said, “we came we saw he died” when she took credit for killing Gaddafi . The Arab Spring was a debacle.

    The current administration is not lacking in it’s culpability of the current problems in the Middle East. To deny this is just intellectually dishonest and most likely derived from pure political partisanship .

  20. Honi Soit says:

    The current administration deserves its share of the blame, to be sure.

    Thank you, FBH, for pointing out Rick’s pure political partisanship and intellectual dishonesty in laying the blame for the debacle in the Middle East squarely on one person: Clinton.

  21. Rick says:

    No, it’s not squarely on one person. There’s Obama and the idiot Kerry, for example.

    But Hillary advocated the deposing of Khaddafi and Mubarak. She got the 3 am phone call, and hung up, resulting in the death of a US Ambassador, then lied to the families of the victims. She put sensitive, classified information at risk through her own carelessness. And she was Secretary of State.

    Yes, Hillary has foreign policy experience. All of it bad.

    Well, not all bad. She is great at receiving vast sums of money from Arab oligarchs who treat women like chattel and fund terrorists.

  22. Honi Soit says:

    Rick
    Could find nothing that the US–let alone H Clinton–had anything to do with the deposing of Mubarak. Did find though that the Eqyptian people did: Massive protests inspired by the success of events in Tunisia. Is it too much to ask you what sources inform your accusation? Give it a rest if you can’t.

  23. fightingbluehen says:

    The US facilitated the Arab Spring. Hillary was directly connected to the mission… especially concerning Libya.

    The narrative at the time was that everything was hunky-dory , terrorism had been defeated, and the Arab spring was a resounding success .The Obama administration was still spiking the football all over the place since killing Osama Bin-laden.

    The election was under two months away when trouble hit the compound in Benghazi.

    There was no way that Hillary or Obama was going to admit that it was a terrorist attack, because it contradicted the narrative of the time . They wanted it to just go away until the election, so they lied about the attack being caused by the video. It had nothing to do with terrorism, right? It was that damned video that nobody had seen or heard of, right?

    It is documented that Hillary was telling the American people the fabricated story of the video, and privately telling the truth that it was terrorism, to people on the inside . They actually successfully suppressed the truth until the election. Hillary even told relatives of the killed diplomats and military men, that it was the video that was the cause, and that they would punish the person who was responsible for the video.

    We probably will never know who ordered the military to not take action to save the people trapped in the compound. There is still no account of what Obama was specifically doing during the debacle.

    What we do know is that both Hillary and Obama pulled the wool over the eyes of the families of the victims and also the American people for PURE POLITICAL REASONS…..We also know that it doesn’t matter to the people who support Hillary and the current administration. Lying is just fine with these people as long as it benefits their team, their party…..It’s shameful.

  24. fightingbluehen says:

    Listen to the psychopath laugh as she was beside herself with glee, as she revels in the killing of Muammar Gaddafi, who many feel was one of our allies at the time.

    Who could vote for this?

  25. fightingbluehen says:

    “Libya: From Africa’s Wealthiest Democracy under Gaddafi, to US-NATO Sponsored Terrorist Haven”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-from-africas-wealthiest-democracy-under-gaddafi-to-us-nato-sponsored-terrorist-haven/5482974

  26. Rick says:

    Hillary Clinton is an incompetent dolt who make bad foreign policy decisions, put secret US information and operatives at risk, and lied to the families of Benghazi victims. If she is expert at anything, it is looking straight into the camera, and lying to the American people.

    She also got filthy rich by peddling influence in exchange for the hard cash of Middle East oligarchs who fund terrorism and treat women like mules, and giving speeches to Wall Street billionaires (speeches she refuses to release to the public).

    “Send me money and I’ll get the job done! Foreign cash welcome!”

  27. fightingbluehen says:

    The Democrats literally have nothing to defend their candidate with, so all they can really do is default into the racist, bigot, homophobe routine, and hope that the fools, I mean the American people, are slow to pick up on the facts.

  28. fightingbluehen says:

    “Lobbying Shop That Works for Egypt’s Brutal Dictatorship Has Close Ties to Clintons”

    http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/lobbying-shop-works-egypts-brutal-dictatorship-has-close-ties-clintons

    No wonder they needed a private server, and destroyed a vast number of emails.

  29. Dave says:

    Hopefully you all will only have four years of weeping, gnashing of your teeth, and beating of your breasts. I’m just not sure I’m going to be up for endless rounds of reading your lamentations. Benghazi wore me out.

  30. fightingbluehen says:

    Benghazi is a word that just wears you out right? Congratulations Dave; you have been successfully brainwashed.

  31. Rick says:

    Benghazi wore me out.

    Yeah, well it “wore out” a US Ambassador and several operatives, too- permanently.

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