Following President Trump’s faux state of the union speech, I thought I would put up this open thread to allow the guest to give their opinions. Good? Great? Or God awful? What say you?
Polished and forceful. He’s mastered the teleprompter that he disdained others for using at all. He allowed the adult in him to emerge for an hour. Won’t last. My favorite line: “The time for trivial fights is behind us.”
One thing I noticed during the speech, was the appearance of a culture of intimidation within the Democratic Party.
On several occasions it appeared that Democratic legislatures were confused and wanted to stand up and applaud, but first they had to scan the room to see what the leadership was doing.
Well FBH, I did see a couple of times Sen. Shumer did not get up yet many others did. Really I wish there were less applause all around and standing ovations. We all know what each party supports and opposes. By doing it so much it cheapens the affect it has.
As for the TelePrompTer? Well I don’t know if he just wasn’t comfortable with pivoting from left to right, or if he preferred looking at the friendlier side of the room, but he spent most of the time looking to his left.
I notice most of the talk is about delivery style, and less about content and substance. Maybe because there was little of each.
He couldn’t help but bring up the election, sighting it as the year the “rebellion began”.
The one thing buried deep in the speech was the announcement he has “ordered ” Homeland Security to create a new agency, “VOICE” Victims Of Immigrant Crime Engagement. Well the size of government just grew, and how is it paid for?
Rick you hit the nail right on the head when you said, “it was a positive performance “. Because that was all it was. Yes the President was able to stay on the TelePrompTer and yes one might say he looked and sounded presidential. But one speech does not change the leopard’s spots.
Let’s see how much change we actually get.
I never get excited about speeches before a joint session of Congress. Too many undercurrents.
What makes me even less excited is the pathetic know-it-all antics of “cross-the-aisle” do-nothing Senate Republicans like Graham, McCain and Murkowski, who only show even a hint of energy when they’re racing to get in front of a camera.
The worse is Graham. He acts like he’s the high priest of policy, an “expert” on everything. Perhaps he forgot that when he ran for the GOP nomination, he garnered less than 1%. In other words, irrelevant. And during the debates, Trump exposed his irrelevance.
And that explains his obstructionist behavior. I suppose that he feels important when he throws a wrench into the works. He gets to face the cameras. He’s “important.” He’s getting payback for his debate humiliation.
Too bad he doesn’t have the sense to know that he’s being used by the ABCNNBCBS cabal to disrupt the presiden’t agenda. His intellect fails to match his ego. Alas, that’s a common defect among politicians.
What alternative reality? You referring to 42% unemployment? Or the thousands in New Jersey who celebrated the 9/11 attacks? Or that he built the Trump Organization with a small loan from daddy? Or that he can eliminate 19 trillion in debt in 8 years? Or that the Islamic State is making a fortune on Libyan oil? Or that Ted Cruz’ father worked with Lee Harvey Oswald? Or that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement? Or that the murder rate is higher than it’s been in 45 years? Or that he would have won the popular vote if not for millions of illegal votes Or that he won the electoral college vote by more than any president since Reagan? Or that the vast majority of individual convicted of terrorism since 9/11 came here from outside of our country? Or that 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers were affected by his immigration order?
Or that 1.5 million people attended his inauguration? Or that 122 Gitmo detainees released under Obama returned to the battlefield?
Or that “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder, for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Oophs. That last one wasn’t Trump. That was Ben Carson.
Has Trump stiffed his contractors? Where to begin.
Has Trump settled lawsuits and paid fines and penalties? Ditto
Has Trump sexually harassed women? “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
Has Trump molested little boys? I’m guessing not, but keep in mind that it took decades for that tidbit to come to light for former Speaker of House Dennis Hastert (R). Who would have thought.
I took a count of politicians convicted of crimes while holding office in the federal government from 2001 to date. The Republicans lost!! Or won, depending on your political affiliation or sympathies. Only 6 Dems convicted, but 14 Republicans were.
another great report Mark! thank you!oh yeh and glad to hear the new maietral went down great with the crowd … if you can crack a live crowd at gigs,you can crack anything that comes after with a band. cheers mate!Ray Patrick
Polished and forceful. He’s mastered the teleprompter that he disdained others for using at all. He allowed the adult in him to emerge for an hour. Won’t last. My favorite line: “The time for trivial fights is behind us.”
Not much SNL material in this one. I was disappointed
One thing I noticed during the speech, was the appearance of a culture of intimidation within the Democratic Party.
On several occasions it appeared that Democratic legislatures were confused and wanted to stand up and applaud, but first they had to scan the room to see what the leadership was doing.
Well FBH, I did see a couple of times Sen. Shumer did not get up yet many others did. Really I wish there were less applause all around and standing ovations. We all know what each party supports and opposes. By doing it so much it cheapens the affect it has.
As for the TelePrompTer? Well I don’t know if he just wasn’t comfortable with pivoting from left to right, or if he preferred looking at the friendlier side of the room, but he spent most of the time looking to his left.
I notice most of the talk is about delivery style, and less about content and substance. Maybe because there was little of each.
He couldn’t help but bring up the election, sighting it as the year the “rebellion began”.
The one thing buried deep in the speech was the announcement he has “ordered ” Homeland Security to create a new agency, “VOICE” Victims Of Immigrant Crime Engagement. Well the size of government just grew, and how is it paid for?
Even Van Jones said it was a positive performance .At the end of the day, a speech is a speech. Let’s see what happens.
Rick you hit the nail right on the head when you said, “it was a positive performance “. Because that was all it was. Yes the President was able to stay on the TelePrompTer and yes one might say he looked and sounded presidential. But one speech does not change the leopard’s spots.
Let’s see how much change we actually get.
I never get excited about speeches before a joint session of Congress. Too many undercurrents.
What makes me even less excited is the pathetic know-it-all antics of “cross-the-aisle” do-nothing Senate Republicans like Graham, McCain and Murkowski, who only show even a hint of energy when they’re racing to get in front of a camera.
The worse is Graham. He acts like he’s the high priest of policy, an “expert” on everything. Perhaps he forgot that when he ran for the GOP nomination, he garnered less than 1%. In other words, irrelevant. And during the debates, Trump exposed his irrelevance.
And that explains his obstructionist behavior. I suppose that he feels important when he throws a wrench into the works. He gets to face the cameras. He’s “important.” He’s getting payback for his debate humiliation.
Too bad he doesn’t have the sense to know that he’s being used by the ABCNNBCBS cabal to disrupt the presiden’t agenda. His intellect fails to match his ego. Alas, that’s a common defect among politicians.
“His intellect fails to match his ego” You talking about Trump?
Is there a tipping point of embarrassment for Trump voters to give up their alternative reality?
What alternative reality? You referring to 42% unemployment? Or the thousands in New Jersey who celebrated the 9/11 attacks? Or that he built the Trump Organization with a small loan from daddy? Or that he can eliminate 19 trillion in debt in 8 years? Or that the Islamic State is making a fortune on Libyan oil? Or that Ted Cruz’ father worked with Lee Harvey Oswald? Or that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement? Or that the murder rate is higher than it’s been in 45 years? Or that he would have won the popular vote if not for millions of illegal votes Or that he won the electoral college vote by more than any president since Reagan? Or that the vast majority of individual convicted of terrorism since 9/11 came here from outside of our country? Or that 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers were affected by his immigration order?
Ad nauseam.
Yeah, that stuff
The real headline will be released tomorrow.
The GOP has their own Hunter Biden. A Party leader has had an ongoing affair with her brother in law, the Democrats are not alone.
The revelations will be stunning.
Has Trump visited Obama’s fifty-seven states?
Did Trump kill his secretary/girlfriend in a drunken stupor (Kennedy-(D))?
Was Trump in the KKK (Robert Byrd (D))?
Did Trump settle a rape lawsuit for $700k and get disbarred for lying in court (Clinton-(D)?
Does Trump troll the streets for whores and sanction the killing of heads of state (Diem)- (JFK-(D)?
You people are hilarious.
Or that 1.5 million people attended his inauguration? Or that 122 Gitmo detainees released under Obama returned to the battlefield?
Or that “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder, for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
Oophs. That last one wasn’t Trump. That was Ben Carson.
Especially for Rick:
Has Trump stiffed his contractors? Where to begin.
Has Trump settled lawsuits and paid fines and penalties? Ditto
Has Trump sexually harassed women? “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”
Has Trump molested little boys? I’m guessing not, but keep in mind that it took decades for that tidbit to come to light for former Speaker of House Dennis Hastert (R). Who would have thought.
I took a count of politicians convicted of crimes while holding office in the federal government from 2001 to date. The Republicans lost!! Or won, depending on your political affiliation or sympathies. Only 6 Dems convicted, but 14 Republicans were.
Nah ha
another great report Mark! thank you!oh yeh and glad to hear the new maietral went down great with the crowd … if you can crack a live crowd at gigs,you can crack anything that comes after with a band. cheers mate!Ray Patrick
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