The following was a response to someone on Facebook, whose opinion I value greatly, but on the issue of Donald Trump we see somethings differently. So while this may seem disjointed, (See title), it is some of the problems I have as a Republican in supporting Trump. “Rob, right and wrong, are neither left or right. If we always assume everything from the left is automatically wrong, then we run the risk of missing a real solution simply because of party affiliation.
And if we assume everything from the right is automatically correct, then we run the risk of being led like lambs, not even sheep, because a sheep at least has a fear point and flees. Lambs simply walk to slaughter.
As for the economy? Well a booming economy won’t stop terrorism, it won’t solve the illegal immigrant issue, in fact it would exacerbate it. If there were more jobs, there would be more illegal immigrants, the numbers have been flipping in recent years, more leaving than coming, no work.
What we need is immigrant worker reform. If the workers could come for the season and return home, and then return again without sneaking in, you would have fewer who stayed year round. Of course we would have to cut all aid such as welfare and food stamps to all non-citizens.
How is this any different than the migrant workers I grew up working summers with digging potatoes? They came from Florida and worked their way through states and produce seasons, and were back in Florida for the start of school. They couldn’t wait to leave and go home. But they knew next year they could simply drive back up and start again.
And if you are going to support Trump, or at least defend him, then tell me how many times have you heard him use the phrase “small business”?
He is the perfect example of “corporate”. And I recently got an up-close view of corporate.
Trump believes in collecting little companies under the Trump umbrella, rape them through “more for less” until they fail and then sell them, or bankrupt them. ( His right as a private owner.)
It’s called acquisition. Again I have seen this model for sometime. It cuts the little guys out from growing beyond a limited market.
I seem to recall this model of government as well. Run private business through regulation, and shut them down if they fail to comply.
Trump has mouthed all the trigger words for the “masses”, but his history says otherwise.
And history is what concerns me. We have been too long without a revolution, and have grown complacent.
Trump is playing with fire, he has worked the most base of feelings, anger, to a fever pitch, within a community of people who seem to be waiting for the match.
I am not saying the Republic will fall, but we may be in for the bloodiest days in our history.
You are right in that Trump needs to be a jolly fellow, and I think his message comes across better when he is a positive, sharp, witty and a jolly Trump…….”And it’s going to be a great wall.” : )
I’m not saying the Republic will fall, but we may be in for the bloodiest days in our history.
Who divided the country? Trump? No, the Socialist-Democrats in general, and Obama in particular. The Democrats never speak to Americans in the aggregate. It’s always “people of color,” or “the Hispanic community” or our “LGBT friends” or “single mothers” or “peace loving Muslims.” It’s never “Americans.”
So naturally, there’s going to be a backlash. The Socialist-Democrats are betting on the politics of division. Trump is relying on uniting libertarian independents, blue-collar “Reagan Democrats” and working Hispanics. Amazingly, it is Trump who is the unity candidate.
Having said that, it has been my belief for quite some time that a cultural chasm as vast as we now have in America cannot be mended politically. As Marx and Engels clearly stated, traditional institutions must be incrementally destroyed, to be replaced by a state-molded utopia. Capitalism must become socialism, then communism. Private property must become collective property. Religion must be eradicated and the family unit destroyed. Money (or, “currency”) must be controlled by the state. Art, film and music must be geared toward the destruction of traditional societal norms.
Virtually every policy the Socialist-Democrats promote facilitate the agenda of Marx.
A simple perusal of the electoral map will show that, generally, the urban areas lean left and the heartland leans right. Mark my words; the Heartland will, eventually, seceed and become an independent political entity. And then the battle for hegemony in North America will begin in earnest.
Obamacare covers mental illness… The heartland is mostly dry empty space. Flyover country of mostly uneducated paranoid gun obsessed rubes who have contempt for the things that made us great like having the finest university system in the world. Religious zealots little different in mentality and goals than the Islamic nuts they hate
Who divided the county? The right wing media that you people follow as your party’s leadership and your racist xenophobic obsessions and reaction to a black POTUS.
That’s right Rick no division on your part. “Socialist Democrats”.
“Who divided the county? The right wing media that you people follow as your party’s leadership and your racist xenophobic obsessions and reaction to a black POTUS”
Your POTUS, divided this country! Your group always plays the race card, it’s crazy!
Remember when the President had to have a “beer summit”, because he created division right from the get go.
It’s always about someone who doesn’t look like someone else, or because someone looked like this person or that person, or if someone had a son who looked like someone…..I think people of all colors are tired of it. Move forward already. I see more devision due to economic status, than I do for any racial differences.
Frank,
Looky here.
http://delawarepolitics.net/
It’s all on your shoulders now.
All that means is that they probably need to renew the domain status.
The site is infinitely more useful that way.
As somebody who normally sits in the middle people from both sides are responsible for the division. If I could, I’d deport the lot of you all.
And what FBH said about being tired of it and economic divisions. Stuff like that.
Let’s face it, racism exists and will never go away (it’s a tribal thing for all of us). What binds us should greater than what separates us, unless we have nothing to bind us…
That’s right Rick no division on your part. “Socialist Democrats”.
I’m not a political party or candidate. And the Democrats are socialists. Wake up.
“If I could, I’d deport the lot of you all.”
Why does the fact that my views reflect the views of Dr, King, warrant my deportation in your opinion?
I work for and next to people of different races. I pay my taxes. I feel that my job provides a useful service to society…..Why would you deport me or anyone like myself?
Many individuals in minority classifications will get on board with Trump. It’s not racist to expect a country to follow the rules of law put in place by duly elected representatives of the people. In fact, it’s a slap in the face to people who took the legal steps to live here, and abide by those rules.
” Money (or, “currency”) must be controlled by the state.” – rick
And the problem with that is …………what ?
@FBH
Sorry. I was unclear. I was trying to upvote what you said and made a poor attempt. People like you can stay. The rest have to go.
Well, I’m glad I can stay.
Listen, we gonna have let Frank stay too. It’s his blog. Everyone else gets deported.
” Money (or, “currency”) must be controlled by the state.” – rick
And the problem with that is …………what ?
If in 1965 you had five thousand silver dollars, you could buy a new, fully-loaded Corvette. If you instead put that five thousand in a shoebox and stored it in your closet for fifty years, you could today use it to pay for a new Corvette.
Under state control, they can manipulate the currency for their own ends. For example, on a thirty-year investment instrument, they borrow cash with the buying power of 1986 and pay it back in dollars with the buying power of 2016. And that’s just one simple example.
Get it?
Rick,
You’re not just arguing with Marx, you’re arguing with the Constitution.
“Congress shall have the power ‘to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures.'” (Article I, section 8, clause 5.)
Get that !
Booyah
Yeah, I get it. But “currency” isn’t coin. Coins are metal. They have intrinsic value. See my example of the 1965 Corvette.
First they told us that paper was more efficient, because silver and gold wears down. Okay. But, you could bring paper to the bank, and exchange it for silver or gold coin. Okay. They circumvented the Constitution by telling us our “currency” was “backed up” by silver and gold.
Can you exchange your worthless paper for silver or gold now (at face value)? No. Yet, suckers like you defend your own fleecing.
Booyah.
A short essay by former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan;
Gold and Economic Freedom
Remember that one of the most vociferous opponents of the gold standard was Keynes, the king of the theory of deficit spending. And we now have a 19-trillion-dollar debt.
When asked about the long term debt problem associated with profligate spending, Keynes replied “in the long term, we’ll all be dead.” What a brilliant economic strategy.
I am certainly not saying that this issue isn’t under incessant debate. What I am saying is that, in a time of economic calamity, “currency” is worthless and silver and gold is king. The federal government stole the people’s silver and gold for one nefarious reason; Power.
“Can you exchange your worthless paper…..” – rick
Actually, I exchange my “worthless” paper everyday, for example, at the grocery store. How about you ? Or do you pay for everything with gold and silver ?
I didn’t ask whether you could exchange your paper for groceries, I asked whether you could still exchange your paper for silver and gold. Initially, to conform to the Congress’ power only to “coin money,” the paper was intended to essentially represent silver and gold. And you could exchange your paper for silver or gold at any bank. Since around ’65, the paper represents nothing- except blind faith in the government.
“I didn’t ask whether you could exchange your paper for groceries, I asked whether you could still exchange your paper for silver and gold.” – rick
You don’t need silver or gold, you need groceries.
“You don’t need silver or gold, you need groceries.”
Well said. I also wondered where you insert the gold and silver at the gas pump.
Guys, you have to remember that Rick is stuck in the 1700’s when it comes to the definition of words, you see, in Rick’s world nothing evolves, and the meaning of words never change. He can’t conceive of the fact, at the time, coin was money, so to some, the clause that states that Congress has the authority to “coin money”, means that congress has the authority to decide what represents money for the United States.
Rick you seem to place great value in gold and silver. Why? Because it was once coveted by kings?
Gold is worthless. Let us think about the end of days that the far right is always declaring the beginning of. So if society breaks down, what good would gold be? Why would I sell you food for gold, if there was no one to insure its value?
In some cultures, wood might be the most valuable currency. You see the value of anything is subjective. And if that is the case, then it matters little what material the “currency” is made of, as long as it is valuable to someone in some way.
Guys, you have to remember that Rick is stuck in the 1700’s when it comes to the definition of words, you see, in Rick’s world nothing evolves, and the meaning of words never change. He can’t conceive of the fact, at the time, coin was money, so to some, the clause that states that Congress has the authority to “coin money”, means that congress has the authority to decide what represents money for the United States.
Why don’t you try reading my posts rather than just reacting? I said that to substitute paper for coin was constitutional, as long as the paper was backed by metal, and as long as the people could exchange paper for coin at any bank. And this is how the system was initially designed.
Did you read Greenspan’s essay? Do you realize that he was Chairman of the Federal Reserve?
Rick you seem to place great value in gold and silver. Why? Because it was once coveted by kings?
Yes, I do “seem to place great value in gold and silver.” And so does the rest of the world. Have you checked gold prices lately?
Gold and silver are relatively stable. They are much more difficult for a government to manipulate. This is why the same number of silver dollars that could buy a ’65 Corvette can buy a 2016 Corvette.
Gold is worthless.
Not as worthless as your opinion of gold.
In some cultures, wood might be the most valuable currency. You see the value of anything is subjective.
You can exchange gold for products or services anywhere in the civilized world. It is an internationally traded commodity (New York Merchantile Exchange). Displaced people from virtually everywhere in world have left their homes and belongings behind, but carried their wealth on their wrists, fingers or necks, in the form of gold. Like silver and unlike paper, gold has intrinsic value.
Frank says “gold is worthless.” If you have any, Frank, I’ll take it, and give you some firewood.
Venezuela’s Currency and Gold
To the average Venezuelian, gold is fit for a king. A suitcase full of currency will buy groceries, a couple of gold rings, a car- or an airline ticket.
“You can exchange gold for products or services anywhere in the civilized world.”
I’ll believe it when I see you exchanging some gold for a tank of gas or even a gallon of milk. Gold can be used to buy goods and services when some entity validates that it is gold. Ditto precious gems. If you give me a gold coin the first thing I would have to do is find someone who can verify it’s gold. Since your assertions regarding the possession of gold involves the collapse of civilization, I’m not real sure how all that is going to work and by the time you figured out how to make it work, you will have run out of gas. Or do you think Goldline is going to set up emergency kiosks everywhere?
But you miss the point Rick. value of anything is subjective. I could have a thousand pounds of gold but if it has no value to anyone, then it is worthless. And by the way, the only gold I own is my wedding band, and its value cannot be measured in dollars.
The only reason gold is valuable is because government says it is. So even if you own gold, you are at the mercy of government. The businesses that will accept gold as payment does so because they can cash it in for paper.
As Dave said, on a day to day basis, gold is worthless for buying commodities. The people buying and hoarding gold due so in the hopes of holding it long enough for the value to go up, to sell it for paper. Hell some of them never even see it.
But you miss the point Rick. value of anything is subjective. I could have a thousand pounds of gold but if it has no value to anyone, then it is worthless.
No, you miss the point. Gold does– and always has- had value, around the world.
The only reason gold is valuable is because government says it is.
Actually, gold has its most value when there is no government, or when the government is unstable or under duress.
As Dave said, on a day to day basis, gold is worthless for buying commodities…
That statement is patently absurd. Gold is being used to prop-up Venezuela’s worthless paper currency. Read the article.
But my original point isn’t that gold should be used for daily transactions. But rather, that gold (and silver) should back-up our currency and be available to any citizen in exchange for paper.
The U.S. has been lucky in that the dollar has been the world’s “reserve currency,” and thus, could be used for international transactions. But as our economy weakens, Russia, China and many other nations are clamoring for a new “reserve” entity, perhaps metal-based. If or when that happens, you will see an instantaneous depreciation of the dollar. Which would be impossible with gold or silver.
I realize that Frank’s knowledge of economics dwarfs that of the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Of course, Frank knows more about conservatism than a man who served in the Nixon and Reagan White House, too.
This must be why so many dedicated conservatives like Pandora, Honi Solt and mouse support his “conservative” (LOL) blog.
Frank, stick to being the big fish in the very small Jimmy’s Grill pool. You don’t speak for conservatives. You don’t speak for Republicans. You merely speak for yourself.
“I realize that Frank’s knowledge of economics dwarfs that of the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve.” – rick
It’s a safe bet that Frank buys his groceries the same way Greenspan does, with paper currency, not gold and silver.
Rick I have never claimed to speak for anyone but myself. You simply can’t fathom what I am saying because it is outside your belief system. What makes gold Mir evaluate than steel? Well quantity I guess, it is a rare metal. But what gives it its value is people’s belief that it is valuable, but once the end comes, Lima beans will be worth more than gold. Get it? Gold means nothing to the average person, other than jewelry. So as long as the corner market accepts the dollar, we good.
You simply can’t fathom what I am saying because it is outside your belief system.
It’s not “my” belief system. It is the belief system of the civilized world. What I can’t fathom is your stubborn insistence that gold is “worthless.”
Ask the Venezuelan people about the value of gold. Without their gold reserves, they’d be starving now. This is because their paper is worthless and their gold sells for $1500 an ounce.
Frank, give it up.
Rick, I am saying gold is only valuable because someone values it, the same as paper money. Not that hard unless you are SOS!
Rick, I am saying gold is only valuable because someone values it, the same as paper money. Not that hard unless you are SOS!
One problem; gold isn’t the same as paper money. This is why Venezuela is being forced to sell their gold reserves. Their currency isn’t worth the paper it is printed on.
I’m hoarding bullets and gold underground along with canned tuna lol