The National Scene-The Sunday Political Talk Show Report on 12/20/15

The Sanders/Hillary computer flap….I understand and explain. It’s a hoot. And heh, Trump and Putin….so he poisons people? What’s the big deal? Much more.

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina; Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders; John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman; House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Republican presidential candidates Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush
THIS WEEK (ABC): Sanders; Republican presidential candidates Donald Trump and Chris Christie; Jennifer Palmieri, communications director for Democrat Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul; Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

The FreeRepublic Sunday Talk Show Thread

This Week-Trump and Putin

The interview between George Stephanopoulos and Donald Trump on ABC’s This Week was most amusing.

This past week it seems that Russian President Vladimir Putin paid Donald Trump a compliment, something to the effect that he thinks Trump is a good candidate and would be a good president.

Then came the endless narrative about Putin murdering journalists. Stephanopoulos asked Trump how he could admire a compliment from a man who killed his political enemies.


Well I thought Trump, unintentionally perhaps, brought up a problem that seems to happen a lot with this political class. Trump asked Stephanopoulos repeatedly where’s the proof that Putin murdered journalists.

Which was a good question. Although, yon readers, I am very aware of a journalist , Alexander Lifvinenko, who was allegedly poisoned with polonium-210. Lifvinenko died a long and grueling death.

There are several other journalists that Putin allegedly poisoned, poison being a murder weapon of choice in Russia.

But Trump is right! Where is the proof that Putin murdered journalists? Or is the rule that if enough people say it that it thus true? Because Rubio and Jeb Bush also alleged Putin committed murder of journalists and again, Putin’s never been put in jail, never even arrested.

Well sure I know that Puti9n poisons his political enemies. Too much information, too many accusations… sense is that the accusations are true. Still and so, it does not get to be assumed just because people keep saying it.

Trump kept saying over and over “Where’s the proof that Putin murdered Journalists?” and Stephanopoulos was speechless.

Of course Trump also said, when confronted by the Putin poisoning story, words to the effect that America has killed plenty of people, an odd comment.

What on earth was Trump referring to? The comment about Putin murdering political enemies and Trump’s mysterious response did not match, did they? Was Trump accusing American presidents of murdering political enemies? I’m thinking the Clintons perhaps have some questionable deaths surrounding them.

As much as I dislike the Clintons, I doubt they murder people. IF any political enemy should have met an untimely death it would be Monica Lewinsky.

Finally Stephanopoulos relented and told Trump that he made his point, that there was no available evidence that Putin poisoned journalists saved accepted anecdotal wisdom. Trump never expanded on his comment about Americans killing political enemies, or whatever he meant.

Face the Nation-Rubio and Bush

Both Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush got interviewed by Face the Nation host John Dickerson. Both were asked about Vladimir Putin’s admiration of Donald Trump and both remarked about Putin and his poisoning of Journalists.

Stuff like this should not just be accepted as truth if there’s no proof. Further, Lifvenko’s father allegedly retracted accusations of the poisoning of his son, although who knows, perhaps Putin threatened the father with death if he didn’t recant.

Jeb Bush was boring; Rubio was okay.

Nothing to see here.

Meet the Press-Bernie Sanders

If I learned anything by watching Meet the Press it was more detail over the contretemps between the Sanders and Clinton campaigns.

I listened to the Democratic debate last night-more on this later. The debate began with a dust up between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. We had, of course, heard about the computer hacking in the days leading up to the debate and Saturday night Sanders elaborated.

Seems there was some kind of hack that allowed the Sanders campaign to erroneously access the Clinton campaign’s data.

I kind of understand this. The party headquarters is given voter information by the local authorities…who registered, where they live, if they voted last time. All of this information is in the public record and given to the state, or national, political party for them to dispense as they want.

At least that’s how it’s done in Delaware.

I’m not sure I get that bit about one campaign having access to the data of another. I must guess the information is store on the national party headquarter’s computers, although I’m not sure why.

When I handled this sort of thing for a candidate, I got the voter information spreadsheet but saved it to my own computer for further manipulation, sorting and such. Campaign finance information is uploaded to local government computers and this information is available to anyone who wishes to access it.

Thus I’m not sure how it works at the Democratic national level. Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is explaining how this “hack”, translated as the Sanders’ campaign’s access to the Clinton’s campaign’s data on the DNC server, happened before, so Sanders explained, but the Sanders campaign worker did not take advantage of the situation. The SECOND time a breach was found, a Sanders campaign worker DID take advantage of the situation.

Sanders apologized to Hillary for his campaign worker’s enthusiasm but groused about the DNC then cutting off his campaign’s access to the DNC database.

On Meet the Press we learn that the Sanders campaign worker had a field day burrowing through the Clinton campaign data he was not supposed to have access to.

I’d give that guy a raise! Instead, he got fired.

Turns out the guy was 39 years old, not a kid, and had a PHD, which meant what I don’t know. I mean come on….I’m sitting in front of my computer and all of a sudden I got access to my opponent’s data and I’m not going to look?

Political Cartoon of the Week

My take

First we just have to discuss the Democratic debate. Beginning with Hillary’s horrible outfit.

dr12.20.15sundaypolihillaryoutfitHillary Clinton has been looking real good of late, and presenting a good public presence as well. Why on earth she decided to wear this drab pajama-looking pantsuit to this national debate is beyond me.

I’d also note that former Maryland Governor, Martin O’Malley, was robotically perfect. He lifted arm at elbow then turned torso, straight and taut, whirrrrr. He said his point, arm came down , torso turned, whirrrr to the opposite direction.

And goodness didn’t Martin O’Malley fix everything about Baltimore when Mayor and Maryland when Governor?

Taxes were reduced -pay no attention to that 6% sales tax driving traffic to my beloved Delaware. Crime was halved, goodness Baltimore cops shine the shoes of its citizens. Marylanders only have to just wish it and it will be so, given lovingly by Martin O’Malley.

And he will make all of a America such a paradise as Baltimore should he become President.

The Sunday shows covered the Democratic debate but since it was so soon after the debate not much was discussed. Fortunately yon readers have me, who watched the debate and hereby report back.

It sure was nice to have a debate with only three debaters. I am a bit tired of this 85 Republicans in debates and rather enjoyed just three debaters although they all fought over air time, yes they did.

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23 Comments on "The National Scene-The Sunday Political Talk Show Report on 12/20/15"

  1. mouse says:

    Ms. Clinton is so smart and pretty. I would be her Oval Office boy any day

  2. fightingbluehen says:

    Obama says that Trump is “exploiting” the “misdirected”, “blue-collar” worker.

    Basically what Obama is saying by his statement is that blue collar workers are stupid.

    As a blue collar worker….I say, “right back at ya buddy”.

  3. mouse says:

    Critical analysis is the key. Not much of that among uneducated folk

  4. fightingbluehen says:

    So that critical analysis has convinced you to support Hillary, has it?

  5. fightingbluehen says:

    Mouse’s critical analysis of Hillary: (smart,pretty)
    Can we add “nice” to that critical analysis, or maybe “fun”.

  6. Dave says:

    “I’m sitting in front of my computer and all of a sudden I got access to my opponent’s data and I’m not going to look?”

    Then leading him to a height, the devil showed him in a moment of time all the kingdoms of the world and said to him, ‘I will give you all this power and their splendour, for it has been handed over to me, for me to give it to anyone I choose. Do homage, then, to me, and it shall all be yours.’

    Some would look. Some would not. Some out of fear. Some, because they have values.

    Having been in a similar situation where I had access to a competitors proposal, I did not look. I would have violated my integrity. I’ll violate someone else’s values in a minute, but my own? If I did that, it would be tantamount to saying I have no values. You have to own your values Pat, if you don’t they are just words, devoid of meaning. Going to Mass is not living a Catholic life. You would be better served by taking up golf on Sundays.

  7. Dave says:

    Hilary is the better candidate than the rest of the Democratic candidates. She is human and just as prone to error as the rest of us humans, but still the best candidate.

    As for the GOP, heaven help us. I struggle to find one with any of the qualities I believe are necessary as President and Commander In Chief. If I were forced to pick at this point, I’d probably lean towards Rubio, just because he seems to be capable of critical thinking.

  8. fightingbluehen says:

    “She is human and just as prone to error as the rest of us humans, but still the best candidate”.
    Best candidate? There are only three candidates, and two of them are just for show, and yeah, Hillary is such a good human you know.

  9. fightingbluehen says:

    …and what’s all this human talk/speak that I’ve noticed lately.
    I think the dialect originated from the left coast hipsters.
    When people say,” he’s such a good human”, or “that’s such a human” thing that she or he did. What’s up with that? What else would they be….Vulcan….Martian?
    I don’t get it.

  10. Dave says:

    I didn’t say she was a good human. I simply said she is human and therefore prone to the same frailties of all humans. Mammals, for example, are not aalicted with hubris. We tend want candidates who are super human and seem to be surprised when they are found to be wanting.

    As for Vulcans, my experience with them is limited. So it’s difficult to opine regarding their foibles.

  11. Dave says:

    Aalicted = afflicted

    Stupid iPad keyboard!

  12. mouse says:

    She’s kind of a bit hard to like. But she would have a sweet spot for me

  13. mouse says:

    And I thought the Romulans always had the hottest women

  14. Rick says:

    Ms. Clinton is so smart and pretty.

    Pretty? How old are you, 80?

    Critical analysis is the key. Not much of that among uneducated folk.

    Where were you “educated”…MSNBC or Wikipedia?

    I’d probably lean towards Rubio, just because he seems to be capable of critical thinking.

    What, exactly, is “critical thinking,” other than some made-up term used by the left to be used in lieu of objective test scores?

    Alan Dershiwitz, lifetime “liberal” and Harvard law professor, called Cruz the most brilliant legal scholar he ever taught at Harvard. Does getting a J.D. from Harvard involve “critical thinking?”

    The left always lies. Just like they said that Obama “feared” a Romney candidacy, they now say Hillary and her apparatchics “hope” Trump gets the nomination.

    What this really means is that Obana and the left wanted Romney, because they knew he wouldn’t carry the base, wouldn’t create any momentum that would draw independents, and thus, he couldn’t win.

    Now, they “want” Trump. Yeah, sure. The reality is that they’re scared to death of Trump. The economy stinks and foreign policy is a disaster. People are sick of Obama, and Hillary is attached to him at the hip. She has more baggage than Amtrak, is a boring speaker who inspires no one. She simply will not get the turnout of her predecessor.

    The worst mistake the GOP could do is run another “moderate.” Only a conservative will contrast with Hillary and create the momentum of change that will draw vacillating “independents.”

    I thought the Romulans always had the hottest women.

    Romulan make-up is the norm today. When will women start painting themselves green?

  15. mouse says:

    I’m 54 and I would be her boy toy

  16. fightingbluehen says:

    Dude, that’s not even right.

  17. Dave says:

    Rick you know damn well what critical thinking is. You repeatedly decline to engage in it, but it’s not because you are are ignorant, it’s just that you don’t care for the outcome when you do it because it becomes uncomfortable for you.

  18. Rick says:

    Dave DECEMBER 22, 2015 AT 4:10 PM
    Rick you know damn well what critical thinking is. You repeatedly decline to engage in it, but it’s not because you are are ignorant, it’s just that you don’t care for the outcome when you do it because it becomes uncomfortable for you.

    Huh? That paragraph makes less sense than “critical thinking.”

    I believe that the term “critical thinking” is, as I said before, just a vague and undefinable term used by academidicians and politicians as a substitute for objective test results that measure actual learning. Imagine some dimwit teacher teaching C. S. Lewis “how to think.”

    [While we’re on the subject of “unfair” tests (biased against women, gays, blacks, midgets and so on), perhaps we should suspend tests for pilots or surgeons. All they really need are “critical thinking” skills…whatever they are.]

    Now, Dave says that Rubio is at least capable of “critical thinking”….whatever that is. The implication being that a man with a JD from Harvard lacks that skill. Can anyone here say that a man who concocts such an obvious contradiction is capable of “critical thinking”….whatever that is?

  19. mouse says:

    Critical thinking involves looking for fallacies in your own BS

  20. Fanny says:

    Smcda-akb what I was looking for-ty!

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