This was a post on Sussex County Councilwoman, Joan Deaver’s Facebook page, it has since been taken down. Now some may think that this was an attack on a certain Republican Senator, Ernie Lopez of the 6th Delaware State Senatorial District. But I am not so sure, it just may be Ms. Deaver’s way of secretly endorsing Sen. Lopez. Let us take a look, at just what she had to say here.
She starts out by saying that this is a quiz, meaning that Sen. Lopez’s supporters are smart enough to figure this out, of course they are, they supported him didn’t they?
Ms. Deaver then points out, “Seen at all events”, okay, so the Senator is accessible and involved in the community he represents.
Her next point, “knows how to pose for the cameras, a bit of a show off, likes center stage”, in my view Ms. Deaver is saying that Sen. Lopez is outgoing and has fun while interacting with the people and the press, that he is not some stick in the mud stuffed shirt, or in Ms. Deaver’s case, a stuffed pants suit.
I think Ms. Deaver then exposes the fact that she may have a crush on the senator when she says, “tall, dark and has a big smile, acts very friendly“. I am still trying to figure out whether this post was supposed to be a hit against Sen. Lopez, or a closeted endorsement of him. So he is tall? I guess dark infers swarthy. So what we have here is a tall, dark friendly guy. Yeah this is definitely leaning in the direction of a girl crush, and an endorsement.
The next point is where Ms. Deaver seems to get off the reservation a bit with her liberal ideology when she points out that the senator is, “Hispanic heritage but born in the USA, no accent”. So Ms. Deaver? Is that a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you expect all Hispanics to sound like “Speedy Gonzalez”? What is the point of pointing out his heritage? Does anyone know Ms. Deaver’s heritage? Does anyone care? Smacks a little bit of racism.
Ms. Deaver then addresses the Senator’s ability to speak to a crowd when she says, “yells if behind a microphone as if addressing the entire nation”. So I guess what she is pointing out here, is that Sen. Lopez recognizes that the problems we are facing here in Delaware, are problems that the entire nation is facing, and that we as a nation and a state, must work together to solve them. I can only assume that Ms. Deaver is complementing Sen. Lopez on his oratory skills.
As a Democrat, a party that has always held education up as an important issue, her next statement has to be a compliment as well, Ms. Deaver points out that Sen. Lopez is, “highly educated”, so unless Ms. Deaver is saying she would prefer an uneducated senator in the 6th District, this has to be another compliment and endorsement. And she is correct, Sen. Lopez is a highly educated man, he has both a masters, a doctoral degree from the University of Delaware.
Not sure what Ms. Deaver means by, “trained to take public office”, unless she means that Sen. Lopez has been working in his communities, with other community minded people, and in doing so, has earned the trust and respect of the people.
Ms. Deaver then closes out her post on Sen. Ernie Lopez with this ringing endorsement, “he has a wife and children, a dog, lives modestly in an older established community…open the paper and there he is… who is he?”
Sounds to me like Ernie Lopez is living the American Dream! Sounds pretty mainstream, and average to me. So he is a family man, he likes animals, he is unpretentious, and he has no problem working with the media to get a message out to the people. Who is he? Well he is Senator Ernie Lopez.
I have to admit that this post is a bit tongue in cheek, I think we all know that a die-hard liberal like Ms. Deaver would never endorse a Republican incumbent. So the people of the 6th and the people within Joan Deaver’s concilmatic district should ask themselves this question. If Ms. Deaver posted this as a negative piece about Sen. Lopez? Does that mean that what she would prefer as a state senator is an uneducated, single man, with no ties to the community, maybe a little unattractive, shy, unable to communicate with either the people or the media, hates animals, lives in a mansion in a gated community, and of course they would have to be strictly white in her opinion.
Well that may be what Ms. Joan Deaver would want as her senator, but the people of the 6th Senatorial District of Delaware want Ernie Lopez, and I believe they are thankful to have him.
And to think she beat ‘current’ POD person Don Atotte because , as he says certain people in the GOP decided NOT DON AYOTTE would be better. Bet they are rethinking that move, maybe he would have been a better councilman?
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cletus
Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel. Britney Spears’ husband. Inbred cracker white trash with money.
Kevin Federline is a right Cletus. Now he lives in a fine-ass triplewide!
My post was an observation, not meant to be in praise of or critical of Ernie Lopez. He is a good person and well prepared but I am not endorsing him for re-election.
Joan, why did you delete the post? Is Lopez clean and articulate too? Racist!
Cletus, uh! NO!
Ms. Deaver, you state that your post was an observation. Of what? That Sen. Lopez is Hispanic? So just out of the blue you decided to post what could be seen as a smarmy, racially charged attack on a sitting Delaware Senator? And then you take it down. Why take it down if it were just an observation?
Maybe you have been sitting too close to Sam Wilson for too long.
Well, my curiosity is peaked. What was the point of posting this “observation”?
Her comment is posted to the Gazette story where Lopez is pictured twice:
http://capegazette.villagesoup.com/p/whites-chapel-dedicates-historical-marker/1205434#1208146
Frank-
You are so wonderful. I am glad you are monitoring Joan’s Facebook postings and letting us all know her every move. You are on the cutting edge of what really matters in the world. Please don’t stop doing what you do.
Ricky Bobby, the post is important because a sitting Sussex County Council member chose to post what is borderline racism. Considering the recent flap about another member and the NAACP I think it relevant.
So, in your world “Tall, dark,… Hispanic heritage. but born in the USA, no accent..” qualifies as boderline racism to you? Talk about politically correct BS. If someone described you as “Tall, light,…English heritage, but born in the USA. no accent” would they be boderline racist?
When will you run for office or will you forever stand on the sideline and criticize those that do?
In the words of Teddy Roosevelt:
It is not the critic who counts; nor the one who points out how the strong person stumbled, or where the doer of a deed could have done better.
The credit belongs to the person who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; who does actually strive to do deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotion, spends oneself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at worst, if he or she fails, at least fails while daring greatly.
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those timid spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
“If someone described you as “Tall, light,…English heritage, but born in the USA. no accent” would they be boderline racist?”
I think that is a fair point Frank. If we substituted any nationality/ethnicity that had an accent, such as French, Chinese, Irish, Japanese, Bostonian, or Deep South, et al, would it be inappropriate as you have suggested? Does it only apply to people of “color”? Is it description about an accent that makes it unacceptable?
People being people, I believe that racism is inherent in all ethnic groups. “Borderline” implies that one is about to cross a boundary, so at a minimum you seem to consider this a grey area. I think it is merely an characteristic that serves to more fully describe someone, unless it were coupled with some stereotypical adjective that was intended to demean or degrade someone because of their ethnicity.
I also think that one must consider the source of the comment and whether there is some pattern or predisposition that would give rise to a suspicion that they were being racist in their comments. Mr. Lopez is Hispanic and he does not have an accent.
Is it inappropriate to note those characteristics when describing him? I don’t think it is.
Unlike Frank, I don’t think the post is important at all…and certainly not because it hints at racism. Lopez was born in Puerto Rico but moved to the mainland with his family when he was a child. All of his formal education has been in English-medium schools. He does speak Spanish. If his speech reveals no Spanish accent, then he is either a perfectly balanced bilingual (a rarity) or English is his dominant language.
Sussex County Council is in recess. My guess is that Deaver simply is bored. She would have been wise though to keep her comments to herself.
Currently there is only one political blog in Delaware, that I know of, with an open thread, and commenting there is pretty much pointless.
I suggest that an open thread would generate some interesting discussion on current topics such as the illegal immigration crisis on the southern boarder etc.
The Obama administration is in full political mode down in Texas right now.
They just tried to get Rick Perry to pull a Christie at the Austin airport, but Perry wasn’t having it.
The point is, would anyone even bother to describe me as tall, light and german, born in the U.S.A, no accent?
The question is what was the point of putting Hispanic in the comment? I have read many comments about Sen. Carper, yet I have no idea what his heritage is. I have read many comments about many elected officials, and yet do not know their heritage. Why did Ms. deaver feel it important to include that Sen. Lopez was Hispanc with no accent? Did she believe that no one would guess who she was talking about unless she did, that Sen. Lopez is defined completely by his heritage?
It is like telling a story about a woman who broke a glass in the kitchen at work, and in telling the story you say, ” a black woman broke a glass in the kitchen today”. What is the relevance of interjecting that she was black? Does it infer that all black people are clutsy? Or that they can’t be trusted?
I wonder, if Ms. Deaver had written about a gay man and said, “gay, but no lisp”, would people be as understanding?
As for me running for office? Well that is just the fall back position when you don’t like what I have to say. So in Ricky Bobby’s world only elected officials, or former candidates would have any say in how we are governed. Really?
So I ahve to ask Ricky Bobby, are you an elected official, or have you ever run for office, and have you never criticized one? Yeah right!
Polar ice caps melting, Obomba’s reading your mail, kids streaming across our border with Mexico, zionists on the warpath, American dream circling the drain…. no problem.
But a minor office holder says something upsetting…. Now THAT”S something to be concerned about.
Frank,
Dave, Honi Soit and Delacrat (3 out of 3 comments) all agree with me that your post is irrelevant. Looks like it’s unanimous.
“So in Ricky Bobby’s world only elected officials, or former candidates would have any say in how we are governed. Really?”
Anyone can comment on anything they want in this great country. But when all one ever does is pick, pick, pick at elected officials who (in their own minds) are doing the very best they can, it has to be pointed out. How about writing a post about how great a job Ernie is doing rather than slamming Joan over and over and over again? Joan means well in her own way. Personally, I like her. We just don’t agree politically.
“So I have to ask Ricky Bobby, are you an elected official, or have you ever run for office, and have you never criticized one? Yeah right!”
I am not currently an elected official. I have run for elected office and won. And regrettably, I’ve had to criticize people in the past. Hopefully, my criticism helped them. Maybe, instead of coming back with another comment, you will post something nice about Ernie and my criticism will be finished here.
Ah, Ricky Bobby, your criticism of my posting would carry more weight if you knew what you were talking about. Here is a link to a post back on May 3rd this year, http://www.delawareright.com/now-that-is-what-i-call-a-political-event-sen-lopez/#more-1038
And notice no where in the post did I find it necessary to point of that Sen. Lopez is Hispanic.
delacrat, all valid issues, and if you would like to submit a guest post go to the contact us page and send it to that email.
Frank makes some valid points.
Perhaps Ms. Deaver really believes that brown-skinned Hispanics talk with an accent because she’s only familiar with all the H1B Visa workers allowed into the county to work the farming, landscaping, and hospitality industries and they all talk with an accent. And why did she need to point out Lopez’s ethnicity, color of skin, and speech quality in the first place? Go ahead. Find one other instance where she referred to the ethnicity, color of skin, and speech quality of any White public official. If you dig real deep and look past just public officials, you might find a reference to “foreign exchange students”, but no reference to color, ethnicity, or accent, maybe because they are predominately from East European countries and are White, including the Russians.
So, yes, I agree with Frank. In light of the NAACP flap at the Council meeting, her comments come across as at least borderline racist. Sure, her comments may not be “important national news”, but certainly are important on the local level. Just why are so many jobs filled by H1B Visa workers and foreign exchange workers in the first place?
Oh, Frank, just because I agreed with you this time doesn’t mean I owe you a beer. I’m still a cheap b@$*@%*!
Frank, I stand corrected. As I am new to this blog, I did not know about you nice post about Ernie. However, I stand by my criticisms of you. You were very critical when you were at DEPolitics until they tossed you out and you still haven’t figured it out.
Five Drunks – It was a mistake for Deaver to describe Lopez as dark. He skin is as white as Frank’s. I would guess his original ancestors probably came from Spain, which would make him of European descent (not Hispanic). “The NAACP flap” was Wilson’s simple question “What does NAACP stand for?” He had every right to find out exactly who was requesting money from the council. Do you know what NASCAR stands for? What does NAAWP stand for? And Is that a racist question?
Ricky Bobby, you begin to so your true colors and your lack of knowledge when you make statements such as this, ” You were very critical when you were at DEPolitics until they tossed you out and you still haven’t figured it out.”
Not sure where you get your information, but I was not “tossed” from Delaware Politics, I walked away due to differences with the ownership and other contributors. Am I critical? Yes. Guilty as charged, but I am an equal opportunity critic. I criticize hypocrisy no matter the party or the person. Hypocrites cannot stand to have the light shown upon them, much like vampires it burns them to death.
As for the NAACP flap in Council, well your analogy only holds water if you believe that Sam Wilson did not already know what NAACP stands for. Otherwise it is very similar to Ms. Deaver’s so called “quiz”.
His original ancestors came from Europe some he is not Hispanic?…..
Whaaaaaat? That would mean that every mixed blood Central and South American IS European not Hispanic because their ancestors came from Europe too…… OMG,,, where do yu people get this stuff. If this was the case the only people in Cenrtal and South America would be…..Europeans and Natives (indigenous)
Spain….Hispanic? See the relationship?..
To go further, we are all Africans, as ALL our ORIGINAL ancestors came from Africa- does that help?.
They didn’t throw you out Frank, they just make it excruciatingly apparent that your services were not wanted or needed any longer. It is the corporate polite way of saying “don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.”
Everybody was relieved and wished the best for you but they didn’t lay that on too thick because they didn’t want you to even begin to think of begging your way back.
Cragg and Grossman deserve your dumb ass, take that slack jawed yokel, “cletus” with you.
Have a happy life.
Ricky, yes, I know what both organizations stand for and I don’t have to Google them. And I know who GLAAD, NOW, ACLU, and the AFL-CIO are. Funny thing, though. I hold elected officials to a higher standard than an average Joe. If I know it, I expect an elected official to know it. And if the elected official doesn’t know it, I expect him/her to learn about it before saying something. It’s one thing to ask what the initials stand for. Asking only made Wilson look like an uneducated idiot. It’s quite another to deny funding because the name “sounds racist.” That’s equivalent to me saying “I won’t vote for Sam Wilson because his name sounds like a comic book character.”
Oh, wait. I stand corrected. Anyone who does vote for Sam Wilson IS voting for a comic book character.
Frank,
I guess it depends on who you ask about why you are no longer at DEPolitics. Obviously, Wilson knows what NAACP stands for. He was asking a rhetorical question. Instead of writing “find out” maybe I should have written he had every right to “point out” exactly who was requesting money from the council. Please excuse my mistake. If the KKK had asked for money, it certainly would have been pointed out.
Laffter,
Hispanic American refers to:
An inhabitant of one of the countries of Hispanic America or a person of Hispanic ancestry who is citizen, resident or other in the United States. Hispanic America is the region comprising the Spanish-speaking nations in the Americas (not Spain).
Five Drunks,
So 58% voted for a comic book character? Maybe that is the way to win elections?
COUNTY COUNCIL DISTRICT 2
DEMOCRATIC PARTY
GARY M. WOLFE 4959 340 5299 39 . 4 %
REPUBLICAN PARTY
* SAMUEL R. WILSON JR. 7345 476 7821 58 . 1 %
LIBERTARIAN PARTY
RONNIE L. FITZGERALD JR. 304 27 331 2 . 5 %
TruthBeKnown, funny stuff. I have moved on, it is you and others that keep dragging up the past. If it makes you and your friends happy to think I was tossed from DP then enjoy yourself. But you are here now with me and I thank you for your comments as always.
Ricky Bobby, true that!
Frank.
You wrote, “Ricky Bobby, true that!”
I am taking it that you now agree with me and are letting have the last word, right? But you say you always get the last word. C’mon Frank! Don’t quit on me now!
You said that it depends on who you ask as to why I left DP, that is true. it does not mean that the person you ask knows the truth.
The rest of your comment seemed to be directed towards others.
One thing is for sure, you are no longer at DP and you are the only by line with a real name here.
I am gone from DP and am very happy to be gone considering its current state, I was once again correct in my view of where it was headed. If you have followed their progress then you know as well as I, that other contributors have left or threatened to leave for the same reasons I left.
As for the bi-lines here. If you look through past post you will see that we have had many guest post, and while they are posted under the Delaware Right bi-line, they get full credit for their writing. We offer a forum for conversation here and are open to submissions of post from anyone willing to come here under their real name and stand behind their opinions.
You wrote, “If you have followed their progress then you know as well as I…
So you are still reading their blog? What name are you commenting under? Do you pine away at night wishing you were part of a real blog that has a number of contributors?
You wrote, “other contributors have left or threatened to leave for the same reasons I left.
Really? Name one. Are they threatening to leave or are they being asked to leave like you were?
You wrote, “As for the bi-lines here. If you look through past post you will see that we have had many guest post, and while they are posted under the Delaware Right bi-line, they get full credit for their writing.
Maybe you should change the by-lines so the writer actually gets the full credit they deserve. By the way it is byline not bi-line. You don’t have to look it up, I did it for you.
You wrote, “We offer a forum for conversation here and are open to submissions of post from anyone willing to come here under their real name and stand behind their opinions.”
That would be about three people, maybe?
You are LOSING!
Frank,
Wake up! Your public is getting impatient. We need some more of your wisdumb.
If you go to DP, you will see that unlike some people, you included, I post under my own name. I have nothing to hide, can you say the same under your made up screen name?
Fay Voshell!
Yeah, writing the words guest post, by, and then their name, I am sure is confusing for people such as yourself. And thank you for the correction, appreciated. I notice I get some of my best editing from people who can’t refute what I am saying so they correct grammar.
And obviously either you didn’t count, or you can’t count.
I notice since I have proven you wrong on several different threads on specific points, you are now degrading into the Don Ayotte school of commenting, can’t make a real point? Just throw out that the person is weak or stupid. Good work. WINNING!
You wrote, “…I post under my own name. I have nothing to hide, can you say the same under your made up screen name? Fay Voshell!”
As a blogger yourself, it would be reprehensible to post under a pseudonym. My guess is you have a made up screen name (pseudonym) you post under too. If you are guessing I am Fay Voshell, you are incorrect, again. So keep guessing.
You wrote, “Yeah, writing the words guest post, by, and then their name, I am sure is confusing for people such as yourself.”
If that is what you actually did, it would not be confusing. Here is a specific example:
LETTER FROM LYNDON YEARICK
BY DELAWARE RIGHT ON JULY 10, 2014 IN BLOG WITH 13 COMMENTS
Although your headline says it is from Lyndon Yearick the byline says it by Delaware Right.
Another example:
WEEKLY GOP MESSAGE FROM CHAIRMAN CHARLIE COPELAND
BY DELAWARE RIGHT ON JULY 12, 2014 IN BLOG WITH 1 COMMENT
Try writing a byline that gives responsibility for writing it to the writer itself, not Delaware Right. It would make your blog seem just a little more professional.
I have never posted anywhere under any name but my own. I own what I say, and have no fear of trolls like yourself who can’t stand behind what they say.
No, I was telling you that Fay Voshell was another of the contributors of DP that had threated to leave, and had actually left in the past due to (Not) Don Ayotte’s behavior.
I apologize if the title was not clear enough for you mental level to understand, but I write for adults. Maybe you should go back to the sand box and sift out the cat turds.
Okay Little Ricky, notice the title says, “FROM”, and the word by implies that the video is presented “BY” Delaware Right. I love it when you addlepated TEA types start correcting grammar and such, it shows that you have run out of circles to jerk.
You wrote, “I…have no fear of trolls like yourself who can’t stand behind what they say.”
You seem to glorify any “troll” that agrees with you.
You wrote, “No, I was telling you that Fay Voshell was another of the contributors of DP that had threated to leave, and had actually left in the past due to (Not) Don Ayotte’s behavior.”
Really? I was supposed to understand all what you have just written by the mere mention of the name Fay Voshell? Do you expect all your cabal to be that clairvoyant also?
You wrote, “I apologize if the title was not clear enough for your mental level to understand, but I write for adults.”
Well, that is just a mean(ingless) comment.
You wrote, “Maybe you should go back to the sand box and sift out the cat turds.”
And you become mean(ingless)er yet.
You wrote, “the word by implies that the video is presented “BY” Delaware Right.”
I guess that is the real problem with your writing. You write whatever you want and then you write, “I implied this and that and you are too stupid to understand so go eat cat turds”
You wrote, “I love it when you addlepated TEA types start correcting grammar and such, it shows that you have run out of circles to jerk.”
This line of commenting started with you “implying” there were more contributors than just you, yet you have not shown me one other contributor other than stuff you cut and paste elsewhere. DE Politics has at least five regular contributors that I have counted. You are irrelevant. By the way, the sheriff’s posse is ignoring you. They are WINNING!
Frank,
The comment just above is aimed at you. I forgot to put your name in the salutation. I am sorry. Please don’t ban me from your blog for forgetting to put your name first. I will try not to let it happen again, really I will.
Sincerely,
RickyBobby
Ricky Booby, Delaware Right does not cut and paste, we have post submitted to us that may have been submitted elsewhere as well. I have not called them contributors, but guest post.
As for the way I respond to you, well if you can’t follow the conversation you are having with me, then stop.
I will tell you that while I may respond to your childish attempts, I will not continue to respond to redundant comments posted on multiple threads.
But stayed tuned, I have a special post coming just for you.
Frank,
You wrote, “Delaware Right does not cut and paste, we have post submitted to us that may have been submitted elsewhere as well. I have not called them contributors, but guest post.
I stand corrected.
You wrote, “As for the way I respond to you, well if you can’t follow the conversation you are having with me, then stop.
Only you can stop Ricky Bobby. Ban away, Knottzi!
You wrote, “I will tell you that while I may respond to your childish attempts, I will not continue to respond to redundant comments posted on multiple threads.”
Your “No comments” will be sufficient to show everyone you are wrong.
You wrote, “But stayed tuned, I have a special post coming just for you.”
Thank God! I can’t wait for a new post. It seems that before I began commenting on your blogsite you were posting on average about once a day. Because you are now all consumed by me, you are only posting on average once every four days. C’mon Frank, pick up the pace!
Once again Booby show his childish nature by calling me Knottzi.
nothing to see here.
I’m so confused