Sunday Open Thread

don't feed on me  As a Republican, I am sick and tired of the so-called TEA Fringe attempting to suck the life, and the republicanism out of the GOP.  Feel free to discuss this, and anything else on your minds today.

18 Comments on "Sunday Open Thread"

  1. Rusty says:

    Republicans must stop eating their own. Maybe the far right will fall off!!

  2. David W. Long says:

    I’m sick and tired of how the “go along to get along” RINOs have transformed the Grand Old Party into Libocrite Light. Perhaps if the current cabal of RINOs had held true to the tenets of the Party, there wouldn’t have been a NEED for the TEA Party.

  3. waterpirate says:

    And what have you TEA party folks done for me lately on a local level?

  4. Rick says:

    The so-called TEA Party forced the GOP to the right. As a result, Republicans control both houses of Congress, 70% of state legislatures and 60% of governorships.

    In the campaign leading to the GOP primaries, Trump, Carson and Cruz all generally adhere to TEA Party- i.e., conservative- principles. So do Fiorina and Rubio to a great extent.

    Meanwhile, “mainstream” candidates- wishy-washy phony “conservatives in the sure-loser Mitt Romney mold- Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham and Cnris Cnristy- have been reduced to irrelevency.

    The Romney-Bush types seem to prefer the “good old days” when the Democrats dominated Congress and “everybody got along.” Yes, that amiability gave us the welfare state, a massive bureaucracy, excessive regulation and an incomprehensible debt. The Romney-Bush types call conservatives the “fringe right.” But, what do conservatives want? We want representatives who will stand up for the U.S. Constitution and American ideals. Obama has circumvented Congress and signed a treaty with Iran. He has declared war on the police. He has doubled the deficit. He has evicerated the military. And what have the good ‘ol boy GOP “establishment” done? You know, the “reasonable” John Boener and Mitch McConnell and their pathetic cronies like Graham and McCain. Little or nothing.

    It is not a coincidence that Trump and Carson- two non-politicians- are dominating the GOP campaign. Conservatives are sick-and-tired of weak, pathetic Republicans. Frank, you may be enamored with the Bush-Romney types, but you are going to be disappointed. Only a real conservative can beat Hillary, and that is exactly what we’re going to get.

    Weak, soft, back-slapping “Republicans” belong in the permanent minority in New Castle County. We do not need them in Washington. Nor do we need them as candidates for president. Jeb, go home.

    VOTE TRUMP !

  5. mouse says:

    They admire bullies who attack women, immigrants and minorities because it’s mostly a bunch of angry uneducated white guys with an entitlement mentality

  6. Frank Knotts says:

    Rick, again, how do you qualify as being TEA? Who stands at the gate pointing right and saying TEA, and pointing left and saying RINO?
    Trump is already slipping in the polls, Carson will also. But even if one of them were to win the primary, do you really believe either can convert enough moderate voters of either party to vote for them? Time will tell.

  7. Rick says:

    Rick, again, how do you qualify as being TEA? Who stands at the gate pointing right and saying TEA, and pointing left and saying RINO?

    Fighting the agenda of Omaba and the left qualifies one as being conservative. And the GOP needs fighters, not another Romney. Trump and Carson are dominating the polls for a reason.

    But even if one of them were to win the primary, do you really believe either can convert enough moderate voters of either party to vote for them?

    Of course. But the first priority is to carry the base- something Romney couldn’t do an neither can Bush, Christy or Graham.

    The people want a clear alternative, not Democrat Lite. A true conservative will create excitement and momentum, and the malleable middle will follow. Run a butt kisser like Romney or Bush, and forget it. Bush just said that he had better things to do than fight Trump- well, he should do the GOP a favor and go ahead and do them, and stay the hell out of presidential politics.

    Hillary Clinton is a miserable candidate. I believe that any of the GOP conservatives would beat her. History shows that in presidential elections, GOP conservatives win and conciliatory “why can’t we all get along” moderates lose. Luckily, in almost every state poll, Republican voters realize that fact, and thus, Bush, Graham and Christy are languishing in the single digits, which is where they belong.

  8. mouse says:

    So it’s all about bellicose rhetoric?

  9. mouse says:

    I don’t fully understand the terms liberal and conservative other than on social issues. As someone who is pro worker, pro environment, pro peace I guess I would be characterized as a liberal? Trump does have a certain appeal. His most obnoxious characteristics are ones that are just as threatening to religious conservatives as anyone else.

  10. Frank Knotts says:

    Rick, the problem is, the so called base of the GOP, forced candidates to run so far right to win the primary, that they lose all appeal to the more moderate voters they need to win the general, or else the look like flip floppers when they try to come back to the center. Reagan could not win the GOP primary today with the TEA faction in play.

  11. Rick says:

    First of all, the “mainstream” Republicans are again stealing from Social Security to fund the budget. As usual, our black-slappers have given Omaba another win. And the country loses.

    … the so called base of the GOP, forced candidates to run so far right to win the primary, that they lose all appeal to the more moderate voters they need to win the general, or else the look like flip floppers when they try to come back to the center.

    Really? In presidential politics, conservatives win and moderates lose. See McCain and Romney..and if nominated, Bush.

    Reagan could not win the GOP primary today with the TEA faction in play.

    Are you kidding me? Have you read or listened to Reagan? He was as conservative as they get. Although an actor, he didn’t need a script to know what he believed in. And he thoroughly understood the left- and the danger they presented to America.

    Of course, your “mainstream” operatives of the era did anything and everything they could to undermine Reagan’s candidacy. He was too “radical.” Luckily, they failed, miserably.

  12. waterpirate says:

    Call me old fashioned….. but charity starts at home and so does good governance. What have the TEA people done in Lewes? Georgetown? Dover? Greenwood? dare I ask? Wilmington?

  13. Frank Knotts says:

    Rick, I am hoping your above statement was a type-o. “As usual, our black-slappers have given Omaba another win. And the country loses.”
    If not it demonstrates another issue with the TEA.

  14. delacrat says:

    “Republicans control both houses of Congress, 70% of state legislatures and 60% of governorships.” – Rick

    And Rick is still angry and unhappy.

  15. fightingbluehen says:

    I’m angry too. Health insurance rates have pretty much doubled in the last few years and they are expected to keep rising. Rampant Illegal immigration is to the point where our own government should be charged with human trafficking. Something has to change. Controlling both houses in Congress means nothing if we don’t use that control.
    The fact that the big money of the Republican Party somehow figured that Jeb Bush would be a good candidate shows the outright hubris these people have, and how out of touch they really are .

    Trump has media busting charisma, and that’s what it is going to take to win. Few other candidates and certainly no Republican establishment candidate has the ability to overcome the specialization in marketing and sociology combined with all aspects of media that the Democratic Party and the Clinton machine will throw at them.

  16. Rick says:

    Rick, I am hoping your above statement was a type-o. “As usual, our black-slappers have given Omaba another win. And the country loses.”
    If not it demonstrates another issue with the TEA.

    Huh? The “issue” is that the phony “conservative” GOP Congressional “leadership,” the “moderates” that you support like McConnell and Boehner have orchestrated a budget “deal” that increases the deficit and steals (again) from the Social Security retirement fund. This deal is opposed by congressional conservatives (or, in your parlance, TEA Party) and is another example of “moderate” GOP aquiecense to the radical Obama agenda.

    Frank, it is your GOP “moderates” in Congress who are facilitating Obama and perpetuating our incomprehensible debt. Your “moderates” don’t want to “shut down” the government, but they’re perfectly willing to kill the country with debt. It is the true conservatives, the anti-Boehner representatives in the House and men like Cruz, Colburn and Sessions in the Senate (what you call TEA Party members) who stand-up for Republican voters who have given the GOP majorities in Congress only to see them give-in to Obama on every issue, including his gross violations of the constitution.

    And you condemn them for doing so.

    In a related matter:

    Hillary Still Fears Bush

    MANCHESTER, N.H. — Jeb Bush’s campaign may have fallen on hard times recently with the third Republican primary debate looming, but Hillary Clinton’s team is still paying close attention to the former Florida governor.

    At least that’s one lesson that comes across in a roughly 1,750-word memo — which also reports on Clinton’s progress with superdelegates — sent by campaign manager Robby Mook to top Clinton backers…

    Now, the politically naive would believe that this “leaked” memo would indicate that Hillary believes that Bush would be her most formidable opponent. Of course, the opposite is true. This “leaked” memo is designed to invigorate Bush’s stillborn campaign, because what Hillary really fears is that the GOP will nominate a true conservative rather than Mitt Bush.

  17. fightingbluehen says:

    And then again, sometimes elections have nothing to do with anything other than a preordained order of things somehow created by circumstance such as the political pendulum and or other sociological aspects specific to a certain time or period.

    For instance a male may find it impossible to beat a female at this time, or a white person may find it impossible to win against a black person.
    If you don’t have the right chess piece to make the move, it’s all for naught before it even starts. I really believe it is that simple sometimes. This is one of those sociological aspects that I think the Democrats are more in tune with than the Republicans.

  18. Rick says:

    Did you see the “reasonable, moderate, croos-the-aisle” Jeb Bush get manhandled last night. He needed to come-up big but looked rather small, getting slapped by Rubio and responding with an emphatic ‘uh…uhhh.” Fortunately for the GOP, that weak performance should finish him off.

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